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Current Events and Critical Updates


Tuesday October 21st, 2008

Pine forest Update

The removal of exotic Australian Pines continues and new trees are planted. Strangler Fig, Varnish Leaf, Red Cedar, Florida Priviet, Live Oaks and Slash Pine saplings are planted. Sandspurs run amok...

Update: Pam Leisure pointed out that the sandspurs are, in fact native. While there are non-native sandspurs in Florida, the ones on Shell Key are native "coastal Sandspurs". See Images Below.


Tuesday October 20th, 2008

What is a Sandspur anyway?

A lot of Florida natives are surprised when we warn our northern visitors about sandspurs - and are met with blank stares or the innocent question: "What's a Sandspur?".

'Sandspurs' or 'sandburs' are a type of grass that produces many thorny and painful burs. On Shell Key, they are concentrated along the edge of pine forest in the southern public use area. From a distance, it is hard to distinguish them from the sea oats and other native vegetation.

If you are exploring in this area, wear shoes and tread carefully. You may find yourself in a virtual minefield at any time. The burs stick easily into skin and are quite painful. To remove them, use a piece of cloth or leaf to gently grasp the bur and pull it off. Or, you can use your fingernail to 'flick' it off. Look for a small spike that may be left behind after removal. You might need tweezers to get it. These can be very painful and get infected if not removed.

Sandspurs are summer annuals. They create their "fruit" (spurs) over the summer. Those that are not carried away by a passing flip-flop will fall to the ground and produce next year's crop. This gives us an insight into how they could be eradicated..

At this time of year (Autumn) the sandspurs are quite unapproachable. They are dry, sharp and ready to come off the stalk at the slightest bristle.

If we were to plan the eradication of these pesky plants, they can be best approached in the spring - after the new plants have sprouted and before they make fruit (burs). At that time of year, they could be pulled from the ground (by some extraordinarily motivated volunteers) or sprayed with an appropriate herbicide.

We will update this story as we receive input from county staff.

Sandspur infestation Images....


Tuesday April 29th, 2008

Fee-Based Permits Announced

Update: fees will not be charged until Jan. 5 2009. See link below.

South County Land Manager, Pam Leasure reports that her office has been "instructed to begin a fee-based permitting process beginning October 1, 2008".

"Until October 1st... (the County) ... will implement a simple, no-cost approach to issuing permits. On our camping information webpage we will include a PDF file that lists of the rules and regulations of Shell Key Preserve and requires a signature to validate the permit. Campers will be required to obtain, sign and carry this one page document with them while on Shell Key."

While county staff suggested that there would be no fees in the immediate future, we knew that it was only a matter of time before the permits were put to work generating revenue for the County. The permits will be still available online 24/7.

We will keep you posted on status and cost of the new permits as we hear from the county.

Update: The county now has a basic permitting system in place. You can get the permit online here ...

http://www.pinellascounty.org/Environment/pagesHTML/SK_site/sk3000.html

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Opinion:

Certainly, plenty of folks will be immediately put off by the announcement of fees for camping. Nobody likes being charged for something they used to do for free.

But, I am inclined to look for the silver lining in this announcement. I believe this represents an opportunity for everyone (county, birders and campers alike) to make a meaningful investment for the future of recreational activity on Shell Key.

Many of us grew up with the sense that we had a "right" to camp on "Shell Island". But when the County assumed it's lease of the island in 2000, the island and surrounding waters became a "political entity" who's access and use are guided by the interpretation of that lease. Various interest groups, ranging from environmental preservation to commercial interests lobby the County for access to - or restrictions on Shell Key.

Until now, campers have been, essentially unrepresented citizens with little or no influence in the public policy issues and decisions being made for Shell Key. As "paying customers", we can establish some security for the role of our activities - while simultaniously promoting preservation and responsible use of the island...

We have already argued extensively that permits would improve the overall camping experience by encouraging recreational users to abide by the "leave no trace" ethic. As nature lovers ourselves, this represents an investment in our relationship with our brothers and sisters in the various environmental advocacy groups.

But, from a purely economic perspective, fees represent an opportunity for campers to occupy a small but legitimate niche in the sometimes mysterious beurocracy of county politics. It's no secret that Pinellas County, like all Florida counties, will be facing considerable budget shortfalls for several years. To them, this represents a way to look for pocket change under the proverbial couch cushions. It's not a lot of revenue, but they'll take what they can get. And even when this current budget crisis passes, I believe fees will help secure a place for campers on Shell Key.

We welcome your views and would love to hear from anyone who has another perspective on this issue.


Thursday January 17th, 2008

Campers meet with County to discuss new rules.


This afternoon, we met with Pam Leisure and Dr. Stephen Harper to discuss the new camping rules. We had an opportunity to ask questions and offer input for the new camping rules. Here are some highlights from our meeting...

  • The new rules regarding dogs and alcohol are now in place and may be enforced. The County has asked law enforcement to issue warnings to first-time violators for a few month grace period. By this summer, all rules will be strictly enforced.
  • Camping is now banned on the north end - but is allowed, by permit only, in the Southern Public Use Area. The County has agreed with our request to allow campers to choose their own campsite locations.
  • Permits will be available online at the County's website at all times. This service has not yet been made available - so permits are not yet required. Please sign up with our mail list - or monitor the County's website to be updated on the permitting implementation.
  • Permits are free. (UPDATE! - County will charge) However, given the uncertain economic times, the County may decide to charge a fee in the future years.
  • A "Leave No Trace" ethic will be expected of all campers. This means that you must pack out absolutely everything you bring to the island - including all trash and human waste. Portable toilets are readily available in a wide variety of designs and price ranges.
  • Bon Fires are allowed, unless a specific public safety moratorium is issued (for example in times of extreme drought). Campers are expected to remove all unburned material from the fire pit and no trace of the fire pit should remain. Throwing glass bottles or bottle caps in a fire pit is strictly prohibited.

That's it for now. We will keep you posted as more details are made available. Our website is currently being redesigned to better communicate the rules so we can preserve the privilege of camping on Shell Key.


Tuesday October 02, 2007
Camping Compromise is reached!

SUCCESS!
The County has incorporated our permitting idea into the current draft Plan.

Beginning in April, 2007 we offered the idea of camping by permit as an alternative to the proposed camping ban. After consulting with other campers, environmental groups and county staff, we are tentatively supporting the county plan to require a camping Permit for overnight activities.

** If you are skeptical about this compromise, please read our full plan to find practical solutions to the challenge of balancing public use with environmental protection.

Camping Update: (More Success!)
We have asked for clarification on several issues including the distinction between permits and licensing - and how that distinction affects the notion of a "first come / first serve" policy. We have asked about the viability of defining individual, permanent campsites - when the location of campsites are almost always determined by wind and weather conditions. Staff has contacted us about these issues and we are reaching agreement.

County staff has invited us to participate in the drafting of the specific camping rules. We will keep you posted as we stay involved in this process.


Tuesday October 02, 2007
Pet Compromise fails...

Update: We are sorry to report that no compromise was reached on the dog issue. Contact County Commissioners for comments.
The current draft plan proposes a year-round, zero-tolerance policy for pets on Shell Key. The county says that existing signs have been ineffective in keeping dogs out of restricted areas - and environmentalists point out that the 2 month ban does not cover the 6 month nesting season.

Opponents of this plan say that it is not rational to go from a practically unenforced 2-month ban- directly to a zero-tolerance policy because we have not tried any intermediate steps.


J Coletti Proposes the sign and partial ban alternative to the County Commissioners.

There is a solution...
6 month ban + Effective Signage = Viable Compromise

Since the primary complaint about the current 2-month pet ban policy is that it does not cover the full 6 month summer nesting season, we have suggested that the ban be expanded to 6 months as an alternative to a year-round zero-tolerance policy.

UPDATE:
We also support the creation of a dog area to coincide with the southern camping area. This area could allow dogs for 10 months (excluding critical nesting months). The southern area is further from the bird protection areas and limiting dogs to the same area as camping is a clear and enforceable solution. Unlike the north island, the border that separates the southern camping area and the bird protection area is a narrow passage far from bunces pass. There is little or no boater access to this part of the southern public use area so people and their dogs are rarely close to this boarder. While the north island is intermingled with the BPA's, the south area has a natural border that keeps people and pets far away.

The image above illustrates our design for signs that will clarify the rules for dog owners. The signs in combination with our 6-month compromise - and the planed increase of the restricted wildlife area - will have a significant impact on preservation while still allowing some access to the family dog.

It has been pointed out that allowing dogs during the winter months will still pose a threat to wintering shorebirds. However, we still think this is a reasonable compromise since there are far fewer visitors during the winter months - and the consequences of disturbing wintering shorebirds would be less than during the critical summer nesting season - and the proposed new signs would still serve to minimize intrusions by dogs in the protected areas all year round.

Clear and Simple:
Local residents who are regular visitors to Shell Key will quickly learn the rules. Those out-of-towners to come on holiday weekends will be deterred by the signs. If they are not deterred, the law enforcement challenges would be the same as under a year-round ban.

We intend to have a "mockup" of our proposed signage solution at the Sept. 11th meeting. If you agree with our compromise position, contact the county to let them know - or come to the county workshop on the 11th to support our ideas.

** This initiative has failed.
** Dogs are now banned on Shell Key at all times.

Tuesday September 11, 2007
County Ordinance Allows dogs on Shell Key


County staff has argued that banning dogs will put us in compliance with County Ordinance 2-6. However, they do not mention that allowing dogs is ALSO in compliance with ordinance 2-6.
The ordinance states that "Where permitted, domestic animals must be confined to designated areas..."

So, the idea that we are currently in violation of the law is false.

County staff has also suggested that a compromise on dogs has been tried and failed. This is utterly false. The county waited until 2002 - when they quietly added a 2-month ban to the island's already ineffective signage - informing no one. Furthermore, there has NEVER been any effort to manage visitors and pets on the island with proper signage or law enforcement.

In 7 years of management, there has been no effort whatsoever to bring pet owners into compliance with the rules. In fact, this issue has been deliberately ignored in an effort to characterize the problem as unsolvable.

Now, we have propose a practical and viable plan to bring pet owners into compliance with better signage and enforcement - yet county staff does not wish to even try this alternative to zero-tolerance. Why?



Tuesday September 11, 2007

Report on the Final BOCC Workshop


The primary purpose of this final workshop meeting/workshop was to give County Staff an opportunity to make their final arguments to the County Commission members. Their goal was to justify their recommendations for the plan update. We citizens also had a final opportunity to provide opinions or suggestions.

Until now, the Commission members have been allowing the County's Division of Environmental Lands Staff to deal with the business of sorting out the conflicts and maintain the requirements of the plan. The meeting started with a vigorous defense of the staff's recommendation by Dr. Bruce Rinker. Details of this argument are available at the SKMP web site.

I was a little disappointed to hear Dr. Rinker speak critically about the notion of 'compromise'. His implication seemed to be that compromise had been tried - and that it failed. This was odd, since we have worked very successfully with County staff and environmentalists to compromise on the camping issue. This caught me by surprise - much like his suggestion at the last meeting that there was a "rumor" going around that they wanted to ban camping - and that it was untrue. This would seem to minimize the many hours of dialog with environmental groups, the hours spent in advisory committee meetings, the phone calls and emails that we exchanged to build agreement and compromise for camping. I know it's Bruce's job to offer a vigorous defense of all their hard work. And since he had to go first, he was entitled to make anticipatory rebuttals to the criticism he was expecting. I won't take his choice of words personally.

And maybe it's my imagination, but there seemed to be a coordinated effort on the part of a few citizen speakers to preempt and discredit the idea of compromise. This was very curious - since there has never been any such language used at previous meetings - never. But all of a sudden, several people mention the word "compromise" as a bad thing? Very curious indeed... Nah. I'm just being paranoid.

Anyway, it doesn't matter since, in my view, commissioners did not seem persuaded that compromise has outlived its usefulness.

And despite this curious and sudden dislike of compromise by a few, I was again struck by the kind words and positive sentiments I received from several people who did not completely agree with my compromise - but sincerely appreciated my effort to find a practical solution. And almost everyone - on all sides of the room - seemed to like the sign idea. Even if they hated the idea of a 6 month compromise, they still liked the sign.

At the end of the public comments, Commissioner Stewart commended our signage efforts and asked county staff to stay in touch with me about it. Reporters for the St. Petersburg Times and Bay News 9 asked us for brief interviews after the workshop was over.

All in all, I was again pleased to see that most people seem willing to work for compromise if they believe the "other" side is making a sincere effort to contribute to the solutions. I hope that we have contributed, in a positive way, toward a meaningful and fair solution for the continued sharing of Shell Key.



Tuesday September 11, 2007

Address to Final BOCC Workshop by Jack Coletti ...

The following is my address to the BOCC for this final meeting...

Good morning - my name is Jack Coletti and this is my colleague, Eilia Coletti. Eilia has been camping on Shell Key since she was 1 year old - and has been deeply involved with our efforts to find balance between preservation and public access to Shell Key.


I'm a little sorry to hear the bad wrap that 'compromise' is getting here today. It's been our experience with this issue - and it's certainly what I teach my daughter - that Government works best when people are willing to work together in the spirit of compromise.

While recreational boaters are not an organized group, we have been very clear about our primary, collective concern: We are slowly losing a lifestyle that, for many of us, is the most unique and worthwhile reason to live in St. Petersburg.

So, rather that just complain about these issues, we engaged in dialog with environmentalists and communicated with county staff to find a practical compromise in the form of Licensed camping. And I commend the County staff for their patience and willingness to mold our ideas into viable language for the plan.

We would, however, like to make one final plea - for the family dog. We are offering an alternative to the proposed year-round pet ban - that will address all of the stated concerns about dogs - while still leaving some access for responsible pet owners.

Bird advocates tell us that the current 2 month ban does not cover the full 6 month nesting season. And county staff tells us that the current signage has been ineffective in communicating *any* of the rules on the island.

We have a clear and simple alternative to a zero-tolerance pet policy.:

1) Increase the current 2 month ban to cover the full 6 month nesting season.

2) Employ creative, unambiguous signage to enforce the rules for pet owners.

We made this sign in our backyard with some scrap plywood, vinyl an paint. It was fun - I told Pam not to feel bad if you don't like it - we enjoyed making the sign. and we made it to illustrate this point.

People tend not to read large blocks of text on a plain sign that's 100 yards away. And, as officer Glenn told us, people are often content to be willfully ignorant of the rules.

But effective signage like this would serve both as an unambiguous notification of the rules - AND as a clear indictment of those who would violate the rules.

OK - these signs not only tell *you* the rules - but they tell EVERYONE around you if you are breaking the rules. This puts a giant magnifying glass on anyone who violates restricted areas or other rules with their pets.

It doesn't make sense to go from a practically un enforced 2 month ban - directly to a zero-tolerance policy - without trying the alternatives. We are asking you to give this idea a chance to work.

If you haven't already, I would ask you to visit shellkey.org to read the details of our proposal where we address additional concerns for wintering shorebirds and provide details for inexpensive sign production.

Thank you for this time


Monday September 2, 2007

Audubon wins another preserve.

Congratulations to the Audubon Society for their hard work in acquiring"Bird Island" near Coffeepot as Pinellas County's newest nature preserve. Here is the story
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Monday September 2, 2007

County Administrator proposes more LIMA funding.

For those of you who hav
e not heard, the County was prepared to cut funding for the LIMA unit (the Sheriffs officers who patrol Shell Key and other environmentally sensitive areas) due to 2008 budget constraints. Funding would have cut the LIMA unit from 10 to 2 officers. Now, County Administrator Steve Spratt has proposed shuffling county funds to cover 5 officers (along with 2 additional on-call Sheriff's officers. Read Mr. Spratt's letter here.


Wednesday August 29, 2007

Final Advisory Group Meeting held in Largo.

The 4th meeting of the Shell Key Advisory Committee
was a lively event designed to give the general public and advisory committee members a final chance to provide input for the 2007 Plan update. Commissioner Ronnie Duncan chaired the meeting and Commissioner John Morroni was also in attendance.

There was again a roughly 50/50 representation of citizens who are for and those against the planned updates. Several people spoke passionately and eloquently as they expressed their views.

My favorite quote of the evening comes from St. Pete resident, Ed Silverberg - who spoke with passion about his desire to have Shell Key remain a free and open resource for his family to enjoy. When a sign was raised indicating his time was up, Mr. Silverberg responded:

"Please let me finish. Please, I'm begging you."

A close second favorite is this quote...:

"Beer is part of nature...It's alive!"
- Rob Picarillo

All in all, my impression was once again that people on both sides make good points.

I must say, though, that I am always a little surprised to hear the tales of filth and trash that supposedly plague the island. It's not that I doubt the veracity of those stories. It just goes contrary to every experience I have had on the island. I have almost never seen any "piles" of trash on the island at all. Yes, I see the occasional bit of trash and flotsam, but people just don't leave piles of trash on the island - even on the busiest days (see my memorial day weekend blog).

And human waste? Again, I have been camping on this island for 25 years and I have never, ever encountered human waste - and *almost* never encountered dog waste. Perhaps I have not been unfortunate enough to encounter it. But as one observant citizen stated on Wednesday: "Any dog owner knows that the life span of dog feces is 4 days". On most days, there are no campers and very few dogs. From my experience, I would say that human and dog feces are very rare on the island. The notion that there is a health crisis on Shell Key seems completely unfounded to me.

After the public comments, I and the advisory committee were given time to make our points and I delivered my comments about our desire to define the criteria by which the success or failure of the camping compromise will be judged.

After I spoke, David Raynard showed his antithesis to the holiday police videos. Dave's video showed the more wholesome side of the good natured people that visit Shell Key.

Mr. Raynard also made the case for employing "conservationism" as opposed to "environmentalism". "It's about Food" he said as he explained his belief that bird numbers are dropping because the Shell Key Preserve ecosystem is evolving to have less food for seabirds. His argued that we should address this issue instead of concerning ourselves with "moral" issues.

Monique Abrams, an Audubon Society volunteer spoke on behalf of preservation chair, Dave Kantz and presented a fair and conciliatory attitude toward the boaters in the room. “Nobody’s trying to close the island to the boaters; we just want people to go out there who are respectful of the natural environment.” said Ms. Abrams.

We did not hear a lot of new ideas at this meeting, although I did repeat our contention that we should consider a 6 month pet ban rather than the current "zero-tolerance" solution.

After the meeting, Lorraine Margeson explained that dogs can still pose a hazard to wintering shorebirds. However I would like to further explore this possibility. Perhaps with some modifications, it could work.

My personal impression was that both commissioners present were attentive to the reports of problems on Shell Key. But I also saw a strong deference to the recreational boaters' views.

Thursday's St. Pete Times quoted Commissioner Duncan as saying "It's a little on the strict side...I think there's a way to come at that particular issue and find a middle ground."

Does this mean these hope for a 6-month dog solution?

My guess is that this plan will pass when the County Commission votes on it October 2nd. But it sounds to me like some issues have yet to be fully defined.

-- Jack Coletti


Wednesday July 25, 2007

Draft Version of 2007 Management Plan Released.
We are currently reviewing the recently released draft version of the 2007 Management Plan update. Major change include camping restrictions, alcohol and pet bans. See the full draft plan here.


Tuesday May 29, 2007

County working on a plan for Licensing.
We received a call from county personnel to inform us that the county is currently working on a plan to allow camping by license on Shell Key. Our contact did not wish to elaborate on the plan until it has been reviewed by the rest of the county personnel responsible for writing the plan updates.

We support, in principle, the effort to find a compromise for camping on the island. We will wait to hear further details before we make our suggestions for this proposal. Please stay tuned to this site as we will keep you updated on the latest developments.


Monday May 28, 2007

Memorial Day Weekend
We went out on Saturday and canvassed the island with garbage bags in hand. We thought it would be a good idea to do a cleanup while the crowds were still on the island so they would be inspired to do he same.

Being one of the 3 biggest camping days of the year, we took the opportunity to talk to as many campers as possible about the proposed camping restrictions. We spoke with dozens of campers and received almost universal support for our proposal to allow permitted camping.

While talking to the campers, we heard the same story repeatedly. People told us that they always clean up all their garbage - and that they usually police their area to pick up other people's trash as well. One after another, we heard this story told by people who were shocked to hear that they were being singled out as a hindrance to preservation. We are grateful to the campers who have since visited our website to add their voice to our proposals.

Trash Note: After a full afternoon of 'policing' the "tent row" with garbage bags, we were only able to fill one small corner of a garbage bag with trash.

Monday May 28, 2007
Campfires Prohibited
Campfires are currently prohibited on Shell Key due to drought conditions. Law enforcement is issuing $88 fines for violators. We will keep you posted on this issue. Presumably, the prohibition will be lifted once the summer rains finally arrive.

Thursday May 25, 2007
Grass fire on Shell Key
After hearing the reports of a Shell Key wildfire on Thursday morning, we went to the area to investigate. There was no fire or smoke on the island. There was evidence that a small fire has occurred and caused a small patch of burned grass on the north end of the island.

We are adamant that this report should not be used to bolster the draconian measure of banning camping on the island. In 50 years of camping on Shell Key, there has been exactly ONE small grassfire due to extreme drought conditions. This event does not represent a rational argument to ban camping. However, It does underscore a need for the common practice of issuing permits to warn campers of dangers like drought conditions.

Thursday April 26, 2007
Shell Key Stakeholders' Meeting Report
Our overall impression of the latest meeting of Shell Key stakeholders was that most participants are willing to compromise on key issues - while the county staff was competent, thoughtful and willing to consider practical public input for the plan updates.

The turnout for the April 25th Shell Key Stakeholders meeting was excellent - due in large part to good communication by county staff who sent letters, emails and even had a lighted road sign to mark the meeting location. About 30 citizens registered to speak during the "public comments" part of the meeting. Although I was completely unprepared to speak publicly, I spoke long enough to make clear our primary concerns regarding the proposed updates.

Will Davis, Bureau Director (DEM) presided over the meeting and did a great job keeping the pace - as well as the peace. We heard a concise history of the management plan from Ms. Pam Leasure (Shell Key Preserve Land Manager, DEM) and then a presentation on the plight of the Red Knot by Ms. Nancy Douglas (FFWC). Dr. Steven Harper, Research Director (DEM) discussed the changing ecology and natural history of the island. Ms. Leasure followed up with a report on the challenges associated with preserve management. Finally, Sgt. Glenn Wilson, PCSO gave a presentation on crime statistics and showed a video of some of the most extreme violations that have occurred.

After all the presentations, Dr. Bruce Rinker gave us a review of the 16 suggestions that have been received for consideration during the drafting process of the plan updates.

We find ourselves in agreement with some of the suggestions while we find others to be inappropriate. However, in an effort to keep a clear focus on our priorities, we will limit our official suggestions to the camping issue - while also making comments on the other issues listed. Our suggestions and comments are posted on the main page of this website.

Public Comments
The public comments at this meeting represented the entire spectrum of opinion - from zero-tolerance conservation to disgruntled recreational users. We all came to this meeting with our own bias and agendas. There were a few brief moments of tension as some of the audience responded to the more extreme views. However, I was struck by the willingness of several people on on "both sides" of the room to show deference to opposing views and be receptive to reasonable compromise.

I was the third person called to speak at the meeting. In an effort to be polite and recognize the other 30 speakers, I tried to limit my comments to the camping issue. I may have omitted some key points in our overall plan to balance sustainable preservation with public access, but I thought it would be better to keep it simple and to the point.

I was immensely gratified to receive positive responses to my suggestions from several of the Audubon society members who recognize our effort to meet our responsibilities through regulated camping and public outreach. As someone who advocates continued, responsible camping on Shell Key, I was grateful for the encouraging words from Dave Kantz, Preservation Chair and Lorraine Margeson of the Audubon Society.

Ms. Margeson also made a poignant suggestion when she challenged the representatives of the boaters' community to actively participate in preservation as part of their responsibility to this preserve. We hear you, Lorraine, and we pledge to promote a policy that makes boaters and campers part of the solution on Shell Key.

Dave Reynard, recreational boater, gave us a healthy dose of skepticism about many of the assumptions about preservation and reported lawlessness. As a former law enforcement official who spent decades patrolling Shell Key, his insights represented a reasonable challenge to the assumption that human activity is a primary hindrance to preservation. Mr. Reynard effectively put Shell Key preservation in context with the larger challenges facing the tampa bay area. This point was also made by some Audubon society members who point out the need for a broader focus for effective preservation.

Having started with very different agendas, I am delighted that we have been able to develop a respect and genuine appreciation for each others' concerns.

Nuts and bolts...
We are now actively monitoring the drafting process and are in close contact with county officials to make sure our suggestions are adequately considered.

We strongly believe that Item # 8 regarding camping prohibition should be re-written to allow for permit-based camping. We have the support of prominent representatives of the conservation and boaters community. Will Davis and and other members of the county staff have indicated that our suggestion is appropriate and viable.

We will post further updates on the drafting process when we get them.

Wednesday April 8, 2007
St. Pete Times quotes officials on camping / pet bans
"Overnight campers and their dogs may no longer be welcome..." Read the full article...